0.99999999... = 1 ?
개요
0.9999… = 1 이다.
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- One might argue that when multiplying by ten, the right hand side shifts to the left a decimal place, leaving a terminating zero at the end of the infinite string of 9's ( ).[1]
- And, therefore, when subtracting (with a one after the last of infinite nines).[1]
- It is impossible to find a "next higher" number that is both larger to a given value but couldnt have been smaller (see argument from averages).[1]
- One might argue that after the infinitely many zeros, there is going to be a 1 ( ).[1]
- The sequence S = (0.9, 0.99, 0.999, … ) is bounded above by 1.0, so the least upper bound is not greater than 1.0.[2]
- If we consider the surreal number 0.999… (see earlier post), we may assume that there are ω 9s after the decimal.[2]
- Return to the Lessons Index | Do the Lessons in Order | Print-friendly page How Can 0.999... = 1?[3]
- Whatever the reason, many students (me included) have, at one time or another, felt uncomfortable with this equality.[3]
- The ellipsis (the "dot, dot, dot" after the last 9 ) means "goes on forever in like manner".[3]
- Yes, at any given stop, at any given stage of the expansion, for any given finite number of 9 s, there will be a difference between 0.999...9 and 1 .[3]
- In mathematics, 0.999... (also written as 0.9, in repeating decimal notation) denotes the repeating decimal consisting of infinitely many 9s after the decimal point.[4]
- In other words, "0.999..." and "1" represent the same number.[4]
- The technique used depends on the target audience, background assumptions, historical context, and preferred development of the real numbers, the system within which 0.999... is commonly defined.[4]
- More generally, every nonzero terminating decimal has two equal representations (for example, 8.32 and 8.31999...), which is a property of all base representations.[4]
- So when we learn math in elementary school we are told: Every real number can be written as a decimal expansion (maybe infinite) and every possible decimal expansion is a real number.[5]
- we take it on faith that: Every real number can be written as a decimal expansion (maybe infinite) and every possible decimal expansion is a real number.[5]
- (So it can be all the elements less than 1/2 but it can't be all the elements less than or equal to 1/2).[5]
- Notice sometimes the cut will occur at a rational number (all the rationals less than 1/2), but sometimes it will occur at points "between" the rational numbers.[5]
- 다행히도, 임의의 무한소수에 대해 수열의 극한값은 존재하고, 그 극한값은 이 수열의 상한(supremum), 풀어 쓰면 '모든 자연수에 대해보다 크거나 같은 숫자의 집합에서 가장 작은 수' 와 같다.이를 증명하기는 어렵지 않다.[6]
- IF the two numbers 0.99999... and 1 were NOT equal, you would have a number to represent the difference (the GAP or Distance between them) - and it should not be 0.[7]
- Of course it is a bit obscure since we are dealing with 'infinite processes' (sometimes called limits) whenever we work with decimal numbers which do no terminate.[7]
- If you stop the expansion of 9s at any finite point, the fraction you have (like .99999 = 99999/100000) is never equal to 1.[8]
- But each time you add a 9, the margin error is smaller (with each 9, the error is actually ten times smaller).[8]
- You can show (using calculus or other summations) that with a large enough number of 9s in the expansion, you can get arbitrarily close to 1.[8]
- To prove it to yourself that 0.9999… = 1, consider that if they weren’t equal, there would be a number E that is greater than zero such that E = (1 — 0.9999…).[9]
- Since we’re playing this game, you counter and make E smaller, say 10^(-10), and I turn around and say “make D = 11” (because 1 — 0.99999999999 < 10^(-10) ).[9]
- Specifically, if E > 10^(-X) for some positive integer X, then setting D = X will do it.[9]
- There is no E that is greater than zero such that E = (1 — 0.9999…).[9]
- Well, it’s “true” in the same way numbers must be there (positive) or not there (zero) — it’s true because we’ve implicitly excluded other possibilities.[10]
- The idea behind limits is to find some point at which “a – b” becomes zero (less than any number); that is, we can’t tell the “number to test” and our “result” as different.[10]
- It’s still tough to compare items when they take such different forms (like an infinite series).[10]
- Then if you ask for 1, and I give you 0.99, the difference is 0.01 (one hundredth) and you don’t know you’ve been tricked![10]
- Student: Are you (looks at Vadim) saying that you (looks at Teacher) made up the definition of a limit just in order to make 0.999…=1?[11]
- But by the least upper bound axiom of real numbers, if a set of real numbers has a upper bound, then it has a least upper bound (that is a real number).[12]
- That must mean that one-third of it ("point 3 repeating") is also irrational.[13]
- And whenever you have an infinite number of parts of something (an infinite number of places in a number, in this case) you might well expect something amazing to happen.[14]
- Said another way, if your number x = 0.999999999... is such that the difference "x-1" is smaller than any positive number (however small), then we consider x - 1 = 0, so that x = 1.[14]
- 실제로 아이들을 가르쳐본 경험상 중학생까지는 일단 표기부터 다르니까 0.999...[15]
- 대략적인 원리를 살펴보자면 고등학교 방법으로는 lim(x->1) x+1 를 구해보면 2 라는 것을 알 수 있잖아?[15]
- 작은 범위(δ값으로 제한을 두는)의 x값에서 x+1과 2의 차이가 임의의 양수(ε>0)보다 항상 작음을 증명함으로서 lim(x->1) x+1 = 2 임을 보이는 방법이야![15]
- ε-δ 방법이 있고 극한값이 이런 개념이 있지'라고 곧바로 이해가 된다면 그 사람은 이미 이해하고 있는 사람이었겠지...아마 0.999...[15]
소스
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Proof:The Decimal 0.999... is Equivalent to 1
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 Really, 0.999999… is equal to 1. Surreally, this is not so!
- ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 How Can 0.999... = 1?
- ↑ 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 Wikipedia
- ↑ 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 Is it true that $0.999999999\dots=1$?
- ↑ 0.999…=1
- ↑ 7.0 7.1 0.999999=1?
- ↑ 8.0 8.1 8.2 Does 0.99999… really equal 1?
- ↑ 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.3 Why 0.99999… = 1, proof, and limits
- ↑ 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 A Friendly Chat About Whether 0.999… = 1 – BetterExplained
- ↑ 0.999999….. = 1?
- ↑ Art of Problem Solving
- ↑ Forum thread: 0.9999... = 1
- ↑ 14.0 14.1 Ask Dr. Math
- ↑ 15.0 15.1 15.2 15.3 0.999999... = 1 에 대한 쉬운 이야기
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